I have a main form for clients with two continuous form subforms - One for phone numbers and one for e-mail addresses.

I entered some data directly in underlying tables, created the form and subforms, and all seemed to be working fine until I went to add a new client. The top part was empty (normal) but both subforms are blank! And I don't mean empty; they are completely blank. Not even gridlines. Just the form header and the navigation bar. And to top it off, I can not even get into the subforms. I've even shut the form down completely and re-opened it. Clients with data appear fine, but clients without data in the subforms have blank subforms.

Given that the subforms function fine as long as there is data, I have to believe that the linkages are set up right but that there is a property that I am not setting correctly.

AllowAdditions is set to True on everything. Recordsource is a linked table in both both subforms.

All tables are editable, and can be edited using table view or forms. Main form works fine, and can even enter new records no problem. It's the record-free subforms that are being the rascals.

Any suggestions? What little hair I have left can't take much more pulling.

Thank you.

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