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Posted by: Alan_G Aug 25 2007, 04:46 PM

Hi
ollowing on from http://www.utteraccess.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=28&Number=1487385&Zf=&Zw=&Zg=0&Zl=a&Main=1487385&Search=true&where=&Zu=18341&Zd=l&Zn=&Zt=3f&Zs=&Zy=#Post1487385&Zp= , I've now had the barcode reader delivered (the one shown on the EBay link on the original thread) and have spent the last four hours trying to make it work crazy.gif
I've installed the Code39 font and printed out a few test strings (eg *test*, test, *TEST*, TEST, *1234*, 1234) using that font. The barcode reader is installed via USB (PS2 to USB adaptor supplied with reader) and is recognised by XP. Control panel tells me the device is working normally, and in Keyboards (Control Panel) it's listed correctly as HID Input Device.
Leaving all settings (and there's plenty of them!!) as factory defaults, when scanning a barcode the reader beeps to say it's scanned the barcode successfully, but no text appears in an unbound textbox on an unbound form - nor does it when trying it at the cursor position in Word either. I've plugged a spare keyboard into the PS2 - USB adaptor and typing with that works fine in Access and Word, so it seems that the install on the PC is fine. None of the above test strings produce on screen text even though the reader beeps OK.
I've also tried the same thing using Code128 font, with the same result. I've changed settings (that make sense to me anyway) on the scanner with no avail (reset back to factory default after every set of changes to start again) and am getting to the stage where it's going for a trip through the nearest window.........anyone got any ideas?

Posted by: Aquadevel Aug 25 2007, 05:55 PM

Alan,
Have you taken a look at Tony's site? http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/barcode.htm
I've yet to try a barcode app.
Good luck, sad.gif

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 25 2007, 06:12 PM

Hi Aqua
Thanks, but already read all of that - along with lots of others LOL
I think it's more to do with the settings for the scanner, but there are loads of them to play with (particularly when you don't know what you're doing!!) and the User Manual that came with it is worse than useless......just lots and lots of bar codes to scan which alters settings, but no explanation of what you're actually altering (it's been translated from Chinese and the translation leaves alot to be desired to say the least).
I need an idiots guide to follow really, although from everything I've read (and it's been plenty) the factory defaults *should# work - but definitely in my case they don't <hmmph>

Posted by: tunkefer Aug 25 2007, 07:23 PM

Don't know what make/model of scanner you have but it may have a setting to buffer or transmit scans. Ie., to either store the scanned data in the reader itself for later transmission out the serial port or immediately send the scanned data out the serial port.
'd look for a scanner setting along those lines.

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 25 2007, 07:33 PM

Hi
Thanks for the suggestion, but there's no options or settings for buffer or transmit.
If it helps any, the scanner is an Acan FG-8100 that I bought today brand new......................

Posted by: tunkefer Aug 25 2007, 07:41 PM

Not familiar with that make.
nother place to look in the scanner set up might be for a transmission protocol. I have seen as many as four options on portable scanners. Some are specialized for optional printers, storage or keypad/display units that connect to the scanner. But one will be for serial protocol.

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 25 2007, 07:52 PM

I'm using the USB interface, not serial port..........the lead from the scanner terminates in a serial port connector or a PS2 connector. The PS2 connector is plugged into a PS2 to USB adaptor (supplied with the scanner) and also gets it power via USB..........

Posted by: tunkefer Aug 25 2007, 08:00 PM

I assume you set the scanner options on the PC and send them to the scanner via a vendor supplied application? Have you tried doing that yet? Doing that successfully would narrow the field of problem possibilities quite a bit.

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 25 2007, 08:05 PM

There's no vendor supplied software - just a somewhat indecipherable 'user manual' that contains lots of barcodes to scan to change the various settings that are then internally stored within the scanner itself........

Posted by: Aquadevel Aug 26 2007, 08:45 AM

Alan,
hope you get it working, I need to find time to look into
barcodes also.
Good luck,

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 26 2007, 03:33 PM

Aqua -
till not working. I think I have a faulty barcode reader. Everythin is as it should be PC wise, font wise and scanner settings wise. The scanner beeps when it's passed over a barcode but doesn't print the text onto the screen, but plugging a spare keyboard into the same PS2 to USB adator that the scanners plugged into works fine. I'll let you know when I get it working.......

Posted by: Aquadevel Aug 27 2007, 07:06 AM

Alan,
know you probably searched the 'net already, but if you can tell us the make/model, etc. of the scanner we might find something.
sad.gif

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 27 2007, 07:23 AM

Aqua
It's an Acan FG-8100 that I bought on Saturday (brand new). It's cheap and cheerful thing that I wanted to use for my own testing purposes (the actual venue will be investing in a commercial scanner), and yes - I've searched for every keyword I can think of for info on setting it up. I've tried it on a different PC just to make sure it wasn't my development PC that was playing up, and still same result. The scanner beeps to say it's recognised the barcode, but still doesn't output the text onto screen (not just Access, it doesn't output to any app)
It's a Bank Holiday today here in the UK so just about everywhere's closed so I can't get in touch with the company I bought it from. I still reckon it's faulty.......

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 27 2007, 07:27 AM

http://www.a1computershop.co.uk/Items/bcr? on the scanner (and is also the place I bought it from).........

Posted by: niesz Aug 27 2007, 07:29 AM

It's probably faulty, but did you check the PS2 connector for bent pins?

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 27 2007, 08:43 AM

Yep, checked all the connections and pins. It's actually connected via USB. The PS2 connector (output lead of the scanner) plugs into a PS2 to USB convertor (supplied with the unit). There's something faulty somewhere. It isn't the PS2 - USB converter, as if I plug a spare keyboard into it instead of the scanner, I can type merrily away and it works fine. It has to be either the lead from the scanner or the scanner itself I think........

Posted by: Aquadevel Aug 27 2007, 03:26 PM

Alan,
Note that FFFF:0100 probably isn't an officially assigned USB device/vendor ID. Like most barcode readers, the reader is configured via scanning barcodes in the manual. Don't lose the manual as there don't appear to be PDFs to download. Scanning range is about 1"............"
Are you trying it further then 1"? It might beep when further, but not really scan the data.
"The cable itself has an unidentified chip probably a PS/2 to USB converter......."
Above taken from http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=4052

Posted by: Alan_G Aug 27 2007, 03:42 PM

Hi Aqua
Thanks for looking, but again I'd already read that one, which is about the only one specifically related to the scanner I bought. The scanner is indeed configared from scanning the barcodes in the 'user manual', and yes I'm definitely scanning them at a suitable distance. The settings I make are applied OK (light on/off/twinkel etc etc) as it can be visually verified when changing the lamp settings.
There seems to be a remarkable lack of info on this particular scanner, which should probably teach me a lesson. I've resigned myself to the fact that I just bought a cheap piece of tack, and will go out tomoorow to buy another one from a local PC shop that I know works.........
Thanks again for taking the time to look..........and if you ever want a CCD scanner to play with, I just happen to know where there is one LOL

Posted by: alexan_e Sep 10 2007, 05:05 PM

Hi

I have the same barcode reader with usb interface and it works fine if i use the usb port.
when i tried to use it as a PS2/2 keyboard with a usb to ps/2 adapter i found that it doesn't show any characters and i think it's because it is recognized as an HID keyboard (from usb) and this type doesn't work properly with an adapter.
There is nothing wrong with your reader since you say that it recognizes the barcode and beeps, you can check it in a usb port in your computer.
I'm currently trying to use this as a PS/2 reader with an atmel microconroller but i can't do it with the plug converter.
Maybe there is already a ps/2 output if i only find the correct pins.
I will post again if i have results

Alex

Posted by: alexan_e Sep 10 2007, 05:12 PM

I found a manual of a similar device in the follong link and the connector in the base of the device is the same 10pin network plus (as mine) but this device has more features than mine


http://www.barcodeman.com/altek/simple/simple.php
http://www.barcodeman.com/altek/simple/manual.pdf

Alex

Posted by: Alan_G Sep 10 2007, 05:15 PM

Hi and Welcome to UA (even if it's on a non Access related thread) sad.gif
The original reader (the Acan FG-8100) was tried in both a USB port and in the PS2 keyboard input as the cable supplied has both connectors on it. Result was the same in either case - no text output although the reader appeared to read the barcode. The new reader works perfectly, so I can only surmise that the cheap and cheerful one is faulty........

Posted by: alexan_e Sep 11 2007, 10:12 AM

Hi
Me again, i was wondering if you have the manual of the Acan FG-8100 reader because i didn't receive a manual with my reader.
If so can you please tell me if it includes barcode instructions so that you can program the reader (barcode type to recognise, baud rate, change the char it sends after the barcode etc.)
Owasn't able to find it anywhere on the internet and i'm thinking of buying a second one that includes the manual but only if the manual has some advanced settings and since i haven't seen the manual i don't know if its just simple instructions to use it or it includes advanced features.
Thank you ans sorry for continuing this not forum topic
Alex

Posted by: Alan_G Sep 11 2007, 04:55 PM

Hi
Yes, mine came with a 'manual'. It's written in pigeon english having been badly translated from (I think) Chinese. It doesn't have instructions as such, but it does have all of the bar codes you need to scan to change just about any setting you can think of. It's A5 size and has 42 pages of barcodes to scan, which change all of the settings. I also tried searching the net to find a decent manual when I was trying to get mine working, but couldn't find one.
If you want, I could scan the pages you need for you...........let me know the settings you want to change

Posted by: alexan_e Sep 12 2007, 04:31 PM

Thank you for your offer to help but it's not that i need a specific setting, i just want to check the options i have to cutomize the reader and i don't even know what kind of settings it includes.
Osuppose that it's similar to another manual i found for a bar code reader in the link i wrote in my previews email in this thread (interface, typing speed, change beep duration, barcodes to accept etc.).
Basically i wanted to be sure that this scanner can be programmed as the other one i found and that its worth having the manual so thank you for letting me know .
yayhandclap.gif
Alex

Posted by: ExcelRanger Oct 15 2007, 09:08 AM

Greetings everybody.
My first post here.
How much did you pay for that bar code scanner? You don't have to answer that one...
Outilize an HP Point-of-Sale bar code scanner with a single USB plug. It worked fine right from the start without having to program it. Symbol makes the exact same scanner...they are both from the same factory in Mexico. My company paid $150.00 through tigerdirect.com. It has already paid for itself.
had similiar problems with an old Intermec scanner with the PS2/USB converter and junction box. Returned it to storage.
You get what you paid for...
Excel Ranger

Posted by: sisco79901 Jan 20 2008, 06:28 PM

Hi, I think it's too late, but I just bought the same barcode reader. It's designed to work in conjunction with an ps2 keyboard. You have to connect the ps2 keyboard in one end and the scanner in the other of the supplied cable attached to the scanner, and then use the USB to ps2 converter. The ps2 keyboard has the clock signal the scanner needs. You can also connect ANOTHER USB keyboard if you want. The ps2 keyboard that you connect to the scanner is only needed by the clock signal (you can use a defective ps2 keyboard if you want). Hope this help. I use this setting under Windows XP and Vista also. It's hardware matter. Not configuration or device driver problem.

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